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@dansup It is not fair to put Mastodon, Pixelfed, Friedica, Peertube and Loops as analogous to Signal. Signal is centralized, Signal relies on closed source libraries, Signal is only distributed through PlayStore, Signal is not a federated platform.

If we want to have a messaging platform on that image, it should be XMPP.

@alontra @dansup Matrxi, XMPP is unfortunately rather dead.

@mcepl @alontra @dansup #XMPP is alive and well. Maybe check out some clients and servers -
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html

And join some communities - https://search.jabber.network/tags/

@contrapunctus @alontra @dansup

Kewl? Where do I get functional XMPP gateways to #WhatsApp and #Matrix (and no purple-matrix doesn’t count, it doesn’t work)? What is the technology good for when nobody I care about is there?

(hint: I spent many years helping #XMPP technology up to studying #Erlang to make #Ejabberd to work with Kerberos before I gave up)

@mcepl @alontra While others have provided the technical answers in the form of bridges, I'll attempt to answer the social aspect of your question.

Here's how I've onboarded about a hundred personal contacts - and counting - to XMPP.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html#onboarding-and-advocacy

Software freedom and decentralization are too important to give up.

@contrapunctus @alontra

And what’s non-free or centralized on #Matrix and/or #IRC?

@mcepl @alontra The majority of Matrix users are concentrated on matrix.org, because it's way too resource-hungry to host (which is inherent to the protocol, so reimplementing the server in a different language will only go so far).

As for IRC...I'm assuming that's not a serious suggestion. It can neither be considered fully-featured, nor user friendly, nor federated.

@mcepl Observe how I said "the majority" and not "everybody"

I'm perfectly aware of what IRC stands for. That *still* doesn't make it user-friendly, featureful, or (in practice) federated.

Anyway, I hope I've answered your question.