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OpenCage 👉🌍

Irish 🇮🇪 , secrets strange and bold,
across the isle, an odd tale to be told.
Cork to Donegal,
we'll unveil it all -
in this thread, the story will unfold.

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2. First of all, some clarification on terms: Ireland is an island in the north Atlantic.

The island is divided between the country Ireland 🇮🇪 (Éire in Irish, and
sometimes referred to as the "Republic of Ireland" or simply "the Republic") and Northern Ireland, a part of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of

3. Ireland 🇮🇪 is part of the EU 🇪🇺, and the land border and freedom of movement with the UK 🇬🇧 proved to be a tricky point to resolve in Brexit negotiations.

The "border" itself is 499km long with about 300 crossings, often entirely unmarked.

belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast

4. One famous example of border oddness is "the Drummully Polyp", an Irish 🇮🇪 pene-exclave.

The only road access is via Northern Ireland 🇬🇧.

openstreetmap.org/?mlat=54.157

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drummull

5. Like the border itself, the UK 🇬🇧 and Ireland 🇮🇪 share a long, complicated and intertwined history.

Irish citizens have permanent right to live and work in the UK.
Meanwhile people born in Northern Ireland are also entitled to Irish citizenship.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_na

en.wikipedia.orgBritish nationality law and the Republic of Ireland - Wikipedia

6. Ireland 🇮🇪 and the UK 🇬🇧 do however disagree on some points.

Ireland does not recognise the UK's claim to Rockall, an uninhabited tiny island in the North Atlantic.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall

BTW - there was some recent Rockall news: theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/j

(and yes, we do have an alert set for Rockall news. Obvs)

7. Ireland 🇮🇪 itself makes some quite aggressive maritime claims

iilss.net/tag/ireland-territor

8. As alluded to earlier, in Ireland 🇮🇪 two languages has official status: Irish and English.

While English is more widely used generally, several areas are designated as "Gaeltacht" where special measures are taken to try to reinforce Irish.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaeltach

9. Ireland 🇮🇪 was the last country in Europe to introduce a national postal code system. Called "Eircodes", national postcodes were introduced only in 2014, and are still not widely used.

Sadly Eircodes are not open data, which means using them at scale (for example for geocoding) requires a license and paying a licensing fee 😬

finder.eircode.ie

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_a

10. The island of Ireland was historically divided into about 61,000 "townlands", a small geographical division of land of Gaelic origin.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townland

Mapping them has been a very long-running project inthe OpenStreetMap Ireland community

wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ir

en.wikipedia.orgTownland - Wikipedia

11. Indeed, the OpenStreetMap community in Ireland 🇮🇪 is very active: openstreetmap.ie

They were one of the very first communities we interviewed in our blog series where we speak with OSM communities around the world:
blog.opencagedata.com/post/995

Limerick was the site of the second ever State of the Map OSM conference, all the way back in 2008 2008.stateofthemap.org (our very own @freyfogle was one of the speakers)

12. Wrapping things up, you may be surprised to learn of New Ireland, a province of Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 on the other side of the world from Ireland 🇮🇪.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Irel

New Ireland was a correct answer in the April 2023 competition where we asked about states/provinces named after countries they are not part of:
blog.opencagedata.com/post/geo

13. That's it for our look at 🇮🇪 Ireland's .

Thanks for reading and boosting. What did we overlook?

We have more threads about specific countries, border disputes, geocoding, etc on our blog.

Enjoy: blog.opencagedata.com/geothrea

14. Final bonus toot - Ireland 🇮🇪 of course has a rich musical tradition, and has gifted the world with some of the best songs about geocoding.

We close with U2's "Where the Streets Have No Name"

youtube.com/watch?v=GzZWSrr5wF

@opencage And this mapping of a Gaelic land by English speaking surveyors had profound cultural implications which persist to this day and which are perhaps best captured in Brian Friel's play "Translations". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translat

en.wikipedia.orgTranslations (play) - Wikipedia

@ccferrie @opencage I still want to write a spoof version called "ST_Translations"

@ccferrie @opencage also feeatured extensively in Edward Said's Culture & Imperialism.

Paul Durcan's poem "To Brian Friel in his 60th birthday" in his collection "Greeting to our Friends in Brazil" is wonderful for its joie de vivre.

@ccferrie Impressive, no doubt. However, not to be a stickler, but was Ireland a "country" in 1846?

@opencage A country, yes. A sovereign state, no - it was part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

@ccferrie well now who's being a stickler, Ciarán?

@opencage It comes with the territory...literally! 😂

@ccferrie @opencage Tooted about the Lough Foyle baseline a while back en.osm.town/@SK53/111109311607. The international boundary in the lough (& that of Carlingford Lough too IIRC) is disputed, with the 🇬🇧 claiming the whole lough to low water on the Inishowen side.

@opencage maybe not something a mapper ever needs to see, but:

like many countries that have suffered colonial exploitation, some parts of Ireland 🇮🇪 have incredibly complex land / subsurface property ownership. A title search can unearth rights holders who live far away and are unknown to the current surface owner. It's a great way to lose friends and alienate people, as a former employer of mine once found out

@opencage "Ireland and the UK do however disagree on some points" must be the understatement of the century 🍿

@jjcelery @opencage Over in the US, the president of the UAW union is Shawn Fain, and I was so delighted I got to say "many people have learned it's unwise to pick a fight with Shawn Fain."

@opencage

So, in fact, there isn't really a border that could be policed. Statistically, people can cross every 1.66 kilometers.

Just like the Hadrian's Wall of old in Britain, there is one country with the remnants of an archaic border...

@HistoPol @opencage Oh, the border is very much there. Even if you can't see it, the ping you get on your phone welcoming you to a new mobile phone network will tell you where you are.

@ccferrie

Good point. :)
I know, though, from travelling on the Continent, that this can be quite wrong. In the border area, the best "signal mast" wins, regardless of the side its on.

@opencage

@HistoPol

Is even more complicated than that. Back when the border issue was discussed in view of brexit, I remember someone on the bird site saying that the border follows his father backyard fence (can't remember which side was what) and I don't think that is the only case

@opencage

@levpetrovitch @opencage

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From a global perspective the partitioning of #Ireland, #Brexit, and the #Crown are all anachronisms, living on borrowed time but to the detriment of the peoples of the islands...

There is no "splendid isolation" anymore, if there ever was. (#Mercantilism didn't do all that well historically.)
No islanders are able to go it alone, in particular not in a world of rising sea levels.

The threatened peoples of the #Pacific see this clearly, and...

@levpetrovitch @opencage

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...have united. Only the majority of Brits thought they could go it alone...

How much more of the (colonial) wealth must be destroyed in order for the people to rebel against such macroeconomically insane policies?

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@opencage
Back in the '60s we lived for a time in one of the northern 6 counties. Coming back from holiday in the republic, at the then border control, my Dad declared a pair of socks, in mockery of the border.
His Dad had toured Normandy by bike in the years before mandatory borders.