More technical people may object to using their phone number - then I suggest conversations.im with Conversations/Monocles Chat/Cheogram (Android) or @Monal (iOS). Often, they look up new servers themselves, or even start self-hosting.
If a Quicksy Android user wants some more features, I tell them to sign into Monocles Chat or Cheogram with their Quicksy account.
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@contrapunctus since I feel pointed out by "Delta Chat fanboys", I will reply:
I am really happy that it worked for you fine all this years, I am not "whining" about it, I even gave it a quick try and without doing anything special somehow ended with a group of 2 people without encryption working properly, not even intentionally, maybe I am the unluckiest person in the world and for everyone else it works fine
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@contrapunctus IMHO that "XMPP is perfect" attitude is part of why XMPP is so bad after so many years, some nerds think everything is perfect because they understand it and the "dummy" people that don't find it easy to use are the problem, if you use Conversations and its forks it is full of technical stuff and bad UI/UX decisions
you first need to accept your defects to be able to improve...
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@contrapunctus UPDATE: after more testing it turned out it seems I changed encryption to "TLS" for some chat in Cheogram some months ago testing something and forgot about it and then this changed the default for all my new chats at least, I think this is too dangerous and too on the face of the user, but at least it is not as broken as I was fearing
@ben_zen I think stickers have been around for a while - Monocles and Cheogram have stickers and offer to download them on the first run, and I think Movim has them too. I don't use stickers (I have my own set of meme and reaction images/GIFs/videos I use), so I haven't really noticed...
But (having cooled off after the rant), I think there may be some truth to the complaint of inconsistency.
I should start contributing code to clients.
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@contrapunctus I didn't want to make it a hashtag, indeed. Bu for my subscription I did add the #.
I just tried again a few minutes ago, and now I get messages. Weird.
@dimpase @dimpase I've asked the Conversations.im support channel, waiting for their response.
I know people in some countries (e.g. Brazil) don't get Quicksy OTPs because of Quicksy's SMS provider...they reported success with @prav (a fork of Quicksy, which uses a different SMS provider; they're also in the process of registering as a co-op). Prav is not yet in the Play Store, though, so it needs F-Droid for now.
But it might be that an SIP number won't work for either one...
@contrapunctus @prav one should have a option of auth via a Signal or WhatsUp message; or a voice call. SMSs are always iffy, especially international ones.