Who remembers xbill?

http://www.xbill.org/

What do you think is still missing in #Wayland?

I feel that the last rough edges have been ironed out in the last year. This includes #HDR, #TripleBuffering, #ColorManagement, #SessionRestore implementations, improved #Accessibility, etc.

What important pieces do you think are still missing in Wayland?

#XWayland #Mutter #KWin #Gnome #KDE #X11 #XOrg #Cosmic #Enlightenment #GTK4 #GTK #QT6 #Weston #Cinnamon #Xfce hyprland #niri #sway

What are the benefits of #Wayland over #X11 on #Linux? #Ubuntu #KDE #Neon

I use Synergy/Deskflow and Wayland has so many annoying quirks compared to X11. One quirk though, Copy/Paste works so awesome with #KDEConnect. Wow that app has blossomed in such amazing ways. I remember when it first came out, I tried it and quickly removed it. Such a great app!

I built a latency meter with an Arduino and a photo transistor to answer one question: Is click-to-photon latency higher on Wayland than on X11?

And the answer is: Yes, actually.

42 ms on X11, compositing off
56 ms on X11, compositing on
64 ms on Wayland
71 ms on Windows 10

Tested with Plasma 6.3.4 and Firefox 137. I will improve my methods and confirm these numbers. See replies for details.

The reason I am looking into #automation with #gnome / #ubuntu is because I'm building a prototype control panel to further streamline my multi-monitor/multi-workspace workflow.

If it looks blunt, that's because I'm not an artist, design will come later.

Right now I can switch workspaces, activate windows and control media playback.

Works better on #x11 than #wayland though. It's one of the few places where I I am thinking: "This would have been a lot easier in Windows".

Wayland doesn't do Multihead, does it?

#editingforhashtags
#wayland
#xorg
#x11
#butnotX10thatssomethingelse
#andIsaythatassomebodywhohadalotofX10equipmentbackintheday
#homeautomation
#whyareyoustillreadingthis

Which screen recorder for #x11 / #xorg do you use? I finally have something cool enough to include on my blog for an animation to make sense ;p

The one feature that I really miss in X-Window that Wayland doesn't implement...

Don't laugh or smirk...

"unclutter"

If the mouse stops moving it should disappear after X seconds. Otherwise the desktop has this ugly cursor just sitting there doing nothing.

With the new Wayland cursor protocols is this something that could be implemented now?

Could it already be implemented but is an oversight?

I'm not even disappointed about network transparency.

Well, I really like #X11 (#Xorg) ... and my son loves #PeppaPig. Which gives me a stupid idea. I could write something called #Xchicken. Make some chicken lay some eggs with mouse clicks on some #XRender surface.

Rough roadmap:
- Draw some chicken and eggs, probably as SVG?
- Reuse code from #Xmoji, add special widget supporting some "layered canvas"
- Implement game logic
- Add sound? (Hm, gotta look into #OSS and maybe #sndio, cause #FreeBSD ... #Linux weirdness maybe later)
- ....?

I'll probably never start though

At least KDE didn't went full bananas like those GNOME zealots

｢ Moreover, it is worth noting that KWin Wayland is now “de-facto” KWin moving forward, meaning users and distros will likely continue to see it simply packaged as “kwin.” While the naming decision ultimately lies with each distro, the KDE team recommends that any “kwin” package now be recognized as “kwin_wayland,” reflecting the project’s focus on Wayland ｣

https://linuxiac.com/kde-x11-support-to-continue-until-plasma-7/

X11 and Wayland codebases have been split in Kwin:

https://blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2025/03/13/kwin_x11-and-kwin_wayland-split/

#LinuxGaming: Alle meine Grafik-Probleme hingen zusammen mit #Wayland und der veralteten Code-Basis von #ZorinOS. Der Wechsel auf #X11 hat geholfen.

wtf is up with Flathub calling X11 "legacy windowing system" and marking apps with X11 support as "unsafe".

I know GNOME likes role-playing as the sole owners of the Linux ecosystem, but it's not a good look to push their opinions on an otherwise neutral marketplace.

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