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Lach Anonym's PT<p><a href="https://traewelling.de/status/4494833" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">traewelling.de/status/4494833</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>1) :pkpic: is cheaper than :kw: <br>2) here we have a brand new 200 km/h <a href="https://zug.network/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> Griffin locomotive<br>3) I'm alone in the compartment :heart_pkp_ic: <a href="https://zug.network/tags/samwprzedziale" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>samwprzedziale</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/trains" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>trains</span></a></span> <a href="https://zug.network/tags/poland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>poland</span></a> <a href="https://zug.network/tags/polska" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>polska</span></a> <a href="https://zug.network/tags/pkp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pkp</span></a></p>
Piotr "Mikołaj" Mikołajski 🐉<p>Wrzucam ku pamięci oraz archiwizacji materiałów na temat Newagu. Wróć, na temat tajemniczych wydarzeń, z którymi ta firma z całą pewnością nie ma nic wspólnego, bo tak twierdzi, a ja im przecież wierzę tam i z powrotem.</p><p>🌐 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Gu8WZNye8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=M5Gu8WZNye</span><span class="invisible">8</span></a><br>#️⃣ <a href="https://c.im/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Kolej" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kolej</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/zbiorkom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zbiorkom</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/cyberbezpieczenstwo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberbezpieczenstwo</span></a></p>
bartek<p>Programiści którzy odkryli celową blokadę w pociągach Newag uniemożliwiajaca ich serwisowanie poza warsztatmi producenta są oskarżeni przez Newag o hackerstwo. Więcej o tym procesie i o tym jak firmy posługują się wymiarem sprawiedliwości żeby uciszać sygnalistów (ang. whistleblower) na stronie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pol.social/@Watchdog_Polska" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Watchdog_Polska</span></a></span> :</p><p><a href="https://siecobywatelska.pl/od-niedzialajacych-pociagow-do-slapp-u/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">siecobywatelska.pl/od-niedzial</span><span class="invisible">ajacych-pociagow-do-slapp-u/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://pol.social/tags/slapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>slapp</span></a> <a href="https://pol.social/tags/whistleblower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>whistleblower</span></a> <a href="https://pol.social/tags/newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newag</span></a></p>
M4x<p>I've just watched the recording of the talk "We've not been trained for this: Life after the Newag DRM disclosure" from <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.hackerspace.pl/@q3k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>q3k</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@mrtick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mrtick</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@redford" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>redford</span></a></span> . It was -again- hilarious! To support the guys defend themselve, I've send some money over. How to do it? -&gt; <a href="https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist-vollig-entgleist" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist</span><span class="invisible">-vollig-entgleist</span></a></p><p>Which talk am I talking about? -&gt; <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-we-ve-not-been-trained-for-this-life-after-the-newag-drm-disclosure#t=2501" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">media.ccc.de/v/38c3-we-ve-not-</span><span class="invisible">been-trained-for-this-life-after-the-newag-drm-disclosure#t=2501</span></a></p><p>Never heard of it? This is the first talk of this series (from last year) -&gt; <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12142-breaking_drm_in_polish_trains" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12142-brea</span><span class="invisible">king_drm_in_polish_trains</span></a></p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/38c3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>38c3</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/righttorepair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>righttorepair</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/publicmoneypubliccode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>publicmoneypubliccode</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newag</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/train" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>train</span></a> 🚄 🚄</p>
Quincy<p>Donation against <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/SLAPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SLAPP</span></a>:</p><p><a href="https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist-vollig-entgleist" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist</span><span class="invisible">-vollig-entgleist</span></a></p>
René Moser (resmo) レネ<p>Found <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newag</span></a> where they belong… in the toilet <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/38c3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>38c3</span></a></p>
9Lukas5 🚂 🐧<p>When I heard there's a follow-up and <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/NEWAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NEWAG</span></a> is a sore loser sueing the hackers, I thought: Ok sad, but I can see that 💁🏼</p><p>But ooooh boy, is that talk from <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@redford" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>redford</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@mrtick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mrtick</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.hackerspace.pl/@q3k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>q3k</span></a></span> 🍿worthy</p><p>One sneak peek, that left me baffling: How incredibly stupid can you be, to go to a meeting with politicians, researchers and your customers, trying to deflect from yourself by badmouthing about one of your customers?! 🤦🏼🫡<br>One sitting in the same room??! 😂</p><p><a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-we-ve-not-been-trained-for-this-life-after-the-newag-drm-disclosure" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">media.ccc.de/v/38c3-we-ve-not-</span><span class="invisible">been-trained-for-this-life-after-the-newag-drm-disclosure</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/38C3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>38C3</span></a> <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/BahnBubble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BahnBubble</span></a></p>
Thijs Lucas<p>Security: "Inkompetenter" Zughersteller will Hacker verklagen - <a href="https://norden.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.golem.de/news/security-inkompetenter-zughersteller-will-hacker-verklagen-2312-180367.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">golem.de/news/security-inkompe</span><span class="invisible">tenter-zughersteller-will-hacker-verklagen-2312-180367.html</span></a></p>
Thijs Lucas<p>Also wartet: da hat der Zughersteller <a href="https://norden.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> seine Züge so korrupt manipuliert, dass die Züge sinnlos Fehler konstruieren, wenn Konkurrenzunternehmen die Züge reparieren und weil talentierte Hacker diese Rootcause gefunden haben, korrigiert der Zughersteller nicht etwa sein korruptes Produkt, sondern verklagt die Leute, die zu einer Korrektur seiner miserablen Arbeit beitragen? </p><p>Ich hab selbst in der Fahrzeugqualität und Fehleranalyse gearbeitet und würde ich mich in Grund und Boden schämen.</p>
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦<p>In case you missed it, the hackers who reverse-engineered DRM on Polish trains got sued by the train manufacturer…</p><p>…multiple times.</p><p>You can donate to their defense fund:<br><a href="https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist-vollig-entgleist" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist</span><span class="invisible">-vollig-entgleist</span></a></p><p>Context:</p><p>Their original talk from last year<br><a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12142-breaking_drm_in_polish_trains" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12142-brea</span><span class="invisible">king_drm_in_polish_trains</span></a></p><p>My piece about the first lawsuit against them<br><a href="https://rys.io/en/175.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rys.io/en/175.html</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/38C3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>38C3</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DRM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DRM</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trains</span></a></p>
CCC Aachen<p>Hackers were sued after making public how train manufacturer <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newag</span></a> manipulated their trains to prevent third-party repairs.</p><p>Legal fees are around 30,000€ by now.</p><p>The CCC is now calling for donations to cover the legal and other resulting costs incurred so far.</p><p><a href="https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist-vollig-entgleist" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist</span><span class="invisible">-vollig-entgleist</span></a></p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/38c3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>38c3</span></a></p>
jomo<p>I didn't know Lokpicking is such an expensive type of sport.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/38c3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>38c3</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newag</span></a></p>
mgorny-nyan (on) :autism:🙀🚂🐧<p>A jeżeli jechałem kiedyś Impulsem, i przed samym Poznaniem uległ awarii, i przez to nie zdążyłem na przesiadkę, to czy <a href="https://pol.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> mnie też pozwie?</p><p><a href="https://pol.social/tags/kolej" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>kolej</span></a></p>
ZaufanaTrzeciaStrona.pl<p>Jak dalej potoczyła się historia ze zhakowanymi pociągami? 🚇 Badacze z Dragon Sectora - Sergiusz Bazański (<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.hackerspace.pl/@q3k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>q3k</span></a></span>), Michał Kowalczyk (<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@redford" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>redford</span></a></span>) i Jakub Stępniewicz (<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@mrtick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mrtick</span></a></span>) - opowiedzą, co wydarzyło się od czasu ogłoszenia problemów z pociągami Newagu na poprzedniej edycji <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OMH" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMH</span></a>.</p><p>“SLAPP - Streszczenie Losów Afery z Popsutymi Pociągami” już za niespełna dwa tygodnie na <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OhMyHack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OhMyHack</span></a> 2024! 🔥 </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OMHconf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMHconf</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/konferencja" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>konferencja</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newag</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/dragonsector" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dragonsector</span></a></p>
Marcel Waldvogel<p>The claim ⏫ about "unauthorized changes of recorded computer data" originates in a statement by <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> spokesperson this summer. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.hackerspace.pl/@q3k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>q3k</span></a></span> documented and commented it back then.</p><p>A good example how sentences without a clear subject and object can later be "reinterpreted" to have different actors.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://q3k.org/2024-06-11-pap-newag-en.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">q3k.org/2024-06-11-pap-newag-e</span><span class="invisible">n.html</span></a></p>
Marcel Waldvogel<p>Remember the Polish train hackers? The guys who identified why trains being serviced by an independent, licensed train servicing center, "randomly" started failing? And identified the root cause, namely geofencing and/or time-related triggers?</p><p>Thety face charges by the original train manufacturer, who claims the violated copyright and other laws. A fascinating story of contradictory arguments. Enjoy!<br><a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/PolishTrainHackers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PolishTrainHackers</span></a> <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Poland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Poland</span></a> <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Train" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Train</span></a> <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/ReverseEngineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ReverseEngineering</span></a> <br><a href="https://rys.io/en/175.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rys.io/en/175.html</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦<p>If you're wondering how things are going with the famous <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DRM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DRM</span></a>'d Polish trains, well, their manufacturer – <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> – sued the hackers who had un-blocked them:<br><a href="https://rys.io/en/175.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rys.io/en/175.html</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>But weirdly, after months of implying and suggesting that the locking code was added to the software by the hackers themselves, in the lawsuit the company now insists they did not in fact modify the software installed on the trains.</p><p>Why? Because that would not mesh well with the copyright infringement claim. 🤡</p><p>1/🧵</p>
mgorny-nyan (on) :autism:🙀🚂🐧<p><a href="https://pol.social/tags/EN57" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EN57</span></a>:<br>• przez 30 lat skonstruowano prawie 1500 sztuk<br>• relikt czasów, kiedy liczyło się zapewnienie komunikacji<br>• wielokrotnie modernizowane<br>• powszechnie znana i udokumentowana konstrukcja<br>• duże doświadczenie w eksploatacji i radzeniu sobie z problemami<br>• powszechnie dostępny serwis</p><p>Nowoczesne EZT:<br>• konstruowane w krótkich seriach<br>• konstruowane z myślą&nbsp;o zysku<br>• niejasna przyszłość<br>• konstrukcja obarczona tajemnicami handlowymi<br>• zawodne, często "naprawiane" przez restart systemu<br>• producenci utrudniają serwisowanie, umieszczają pułapki, by pojazdy ulegały awariom, i pozywają ludzi, którzy starają się je naprawić</p><p><a href="https://pol.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> <a href="https://pol.social/tags/kolej" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>kolej</span></a> <a href="https://pol.social/tags/mikol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mikol</span></a></p>
Filip Lachert he/him<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gruene.social/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jon</span></a></span> I'm not sure you noticed, but the trial initiated by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Newag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Newag</span></a> against the hacker group that revealed how the malicious code on its <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trains</span></a> works started yesterday. During the first court session Newag dropped it's charges that it was the hackers who injected the malicious code, but didn't explain how it became part of the train software xD</p>
kravietz 🦇<p>LOL co za ciule… <a class="hashtag" href="https://agora.echelon.pl/tag/newag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Newag</a> 🤦</p><p><a href="https://oko.press/newag-hakerzy-dragon-sector-pociagi-impuls" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://oko.press/newag-hakerzy-dragon-sector-pociagi-impuls</a></p>
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