Rory @rory@en.osm.town

Facebook can be a great resource for finding out details about venues for #OpenStreetMap. Many bars/etc have a FB page, it lists details (website, phone, opening hours). You can tell if the venue is still open if there are recent posts.

I am warming to the "contact:*=" tagging scheme (e.g. "contact:website=blah"), rather than bare tags (website=blah).

A data consumer can deduce that something is a "contact" thing without having to know anything about the thing, whereas bare tags require data consumers to know, in advance, all the types first.

Ah well, it looked like we can't go through an #OSMF election without disagreements. Is that good or bad?

@61 In OSM, borders, and countries, are mapped with the border being where de facto physical control is.

I have a proposal to add the ability to map "according to X, Y, Z"
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ClaimedBorders

@dgold oops, I had no idea! I am bad at spelling. I've deleted those toots and redone the thread.

I couldn't find much online about this distinction you mention? Do I need to ask, or can I presume it's done by people who like brackets?

I suspect putting things back to the way they were 2 months ago might not make the issue go away.

The way things were still showed Crimea as part of Russia.

I think that will still upset people. (technically it was mapped as in RU and Ukraine)

But maybe there is some rule that #OSM can use, maybe I've missed something. Ideally you want a rule that will give one answer. Otherwise you have an edit war between mappers.

If we use "UN Resolution" as a rule for disputed areas, then what happens to the borders of Israel in #OSM? Should they match the original UN partition plan?! That's silly! (TBF I haven't done a full deep dive into all the 'UN res. on Israel', feel free to enlighten me)

I have heard "international recognition" as a suggested rule for OSM to use, but what does that even mean? "the international community" just means "USA & allies". I don't think Donnie Orangeface should have such a say on #OpenStreetMap.

#OpenStreetMap's long standing rule that "country borders in OSM match de facto physical control" means Crimea is shown as part of Russia, not Ukraine. This has upset people. I am totally open to a new rule. I just haven't really heard any suggestions.

The OSMF board has reviewed the complaint about #Crimea in #OpenStreetMap and decided to overrule the DWG. I am curious to read more (only a short announcement now), and curious what policy #OSM should use now for disputed areas/names.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2018-December/081781.html

@61 playing with computer systems, finding the edge cases, seeing where they break. It's the hacker spirit!

So I added that new tag "🏳️‍🌈" to #OpenStreetMap, and it has ruffled a few feathers!
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65296511
😈

If you're member of the #OpenStreetMap Foundation, you should have received your ballot email for the election (I have at least). You have 1 week to vote. I don't think you can change your vote, so think carefully, or wait a few days.
#OSMF #OSM

Personally, I feel like there's nothing more to be said. I feel like I know where candidates stand.

This #OpenStreetMap Foundation board election has been the quietest I remember. Have we stumbled on a better way to do it (with the longer time and condensed Qs)?

@karlos @AkuAnakTimur @61 I think "only post a diary entry when it's X hours old" (e.g. 6) is the only real solution here. Spam is usually taken care of quickly.