has released more of their computer vision road detection results for nearly all countries for """"import"""" into

And the data is bad.


Facebook is detecting walls as roads, because walls are lines too

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Facebook detects some of these lines in a field as roads, others not. Because why not

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I have no idea why thinks there is a street network in the middle of this lake

It took me a few minutes to find this crap in Facebook's data.

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Tried to raise this with FB got the typical smarmy consdescing tone policy shite you expect from corporate america.

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If you don't like what Facebook is doing, consider joing the the Foundation, to help set _some_ policy direction (though OSM is happily quite anarchistic).

I beat the FB candidate for the board by 1 vote a few weeks ago, so every little helps!


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@BalooUriza There isn't one account, since regular OSMers use their own account and the RapiD software.

We _can_ block the editor 🤔

Facebook's initial sneaky imports were reverted. it's the only think they listen to

@rory Not just revert, but fucking prevent them from contributing at all in the future until (the extremely unlikely scenario where) they can prove they've fixed their algorithms. This is ludicrous!

@rory I got the 'renew now to stay eligibile to vote' and the 'roughly a month minus a week 'til the election' email, but didn't see the one from the new voting platform.
It might be nice if the secretary also sent out an email saying 'voting open, check your inbox'.

@InsertUser There is the osmf-talk mailing list ( lists.openstreetmap.org/listin ) which new OSMF members aren't on by default, cause many aren't used to how discussion/talk/chat mailing lists like that work. If you subscribe to that, you'll get notices like that.

@InsertUser shame that you didn't get the ballot email..... You should have!

Can you contact the Membership Working Group ( wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Me ) mwg@osmfoundation.org to check that your OSMF membership is all OK?

@rory after the results were announced I did manage to find the OpaVote emails lost in the newsletters and "infomail". Emails from the OSMF proper get hilighted so I actually see them. Using a novel domain as the only notice that voting is open means that they got buried for me. Of course, I can now add OpaVote noreply to my contacts, but who knows if we'll even be using them next time? A two line email from the OSMF itself after voting was open would have really helped.

@rory I don’t understand what you want to revert. Is this data in OSM, or detected and presented for human check in Rapid before editing?

@rory I don’t get it. What bad data is in osm that needs to be reverted?

@rory yes. “Revert bad data” isn’t specific. I’m honestly trying to understand the problem that you have encountered. Is it in rapid detections, or in osm changesets? Is it systematic in a specific place? Or widespread? Links to specific issues would be helpful.

@mikel “What bad data is there is OSM?” did sound like you thought all OSM data is perfect, to be fair. 😂
Maybe some day.... 🙂

@rory Sounds like what #Facebook wants with this project is for humans to train their algorithm. Not really to contribute to OSM.

@rory waves are just roads for surfers. it makes sense when you think about it

@rory Could they also be using data about people's positioning? Is it feasible that the "lake roads" are boat movements while people onboard have their device's location tracked?

@matt I don't think they are doing that, because then you'd see more things going to/from ports or docks, and you don't see any of that.

"bad algorithms" is just more believable, and what they've done before.

@rory just remember to stop QAing their shit for free after we've demonstrated how bad it is

@riking there is a long history if Facebook pushing pushing pushing, seeing as far as they can go, and only stopping with push back

@rory oops! You weren't supposed to get the Atlantis data

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